A few years ago though she started having such a problem with her hip that she had to stop working which greatly reduced her monthly income. Now not only is she unable to travel to these events she can’t even afford to go to all the Operas, Symphonies and other events she loves so much right in her own back yard of the Los Angeles area.
There is so much to see and do in Southern California that if you have the cash flow and the desire you can do something uplifting and artistic almost every day of the week. This grand lady has the desire but no longer has the cash flow and so at a time in her life when she should be enjoying no longer working she is more or less stuck at home.
One of our Loan Officers met with her and showed her how the fixed reverse mortgage could pay off her current mortgage and free up a little over $1,000 per month and provide her with an additional $250,000 of cash to do whatever she wants to. I pointed out that she could take a very nice trip every year for the rest of her life and still have extra to go to all of the cultural events she wants too.
I have seen so many ways that the reverse mortgage has improved the lives of seniors that I struggle to see why some folks still try to just get by when they could be living a wonderful life by accessing some of the equity they still have in their home. Why do without just to leave it to your kids? What do you think the kids are going to do with the money? They will go have the fun you should have had with your money.
January 1, 2010 the limits on the reverse mortgage will be reduced, now is the time to get started or you will be too late and get a lesser amount. Get a quote using a reverse mortgage calculator to see how much money you qualify for so you can make an informed choice.
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( 2.9 / 218 )Some Senior homeowners are still waiting to get a reverse mortgage, that may not be a good idea. Check out this story on CNBC.com:
Home prices in the US could fall by another 25 percent because of high unemployment and another leg down will come for stocks, banking analyst Meredith Whitney told CNBC Thursday.
"No bank underwrote a loan with 10 percent unemployment on the horizon," Whitney said. "I think there is no doubt that home prices will go down dramatically from here, it's just a question of when."
Local governments and states are chronically under-funded and "most states are under water," adding to the problem of low private consumption, she said.
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Meredith Whitney
"If you look at the drivers for unemployment I don't see that reversing very soon," Whitney said.
If consumers were to decide to spend, "that would be a game-changer," but it would be an unnatural thing to do in a recession, she said.
"A lot of themes are constant, which is the US consumer and the small business doesn't have any credit, credit is still contracting," Whitney said.
Consumer debt and consumer credit have dropped according to the latest figures which also show that people have been spending more from their debit cards than from their credit cards.
"Obviously that doesn't bode well for spending," Whitney said.
She said another leg down was coming for stocks but that Goldman Sachs
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GS still has "gas in the tank" and she kept her 'buy' on its stock.
"Goldman is taking a lot of the place that Lehman left," she said.
But banks are not going to see their earnings rise too much from now on, she warned.
"Banks are taking advantage of what the government is doing by artificially inflating asset prices so they can ride a steep yield curve and they're going to have a third quarter that reflects that," Whitney said.
The bottom line for those looking into a reverse mortgage is don't wait, you could end up seeing your home values drop even more if you do.
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( 3 / 275 )I get asked a lot of questions about how a Living Trust affects a Reverse Mortgage; I will try to simplify this issued and provide answers to the most common questions.
First what is a Living Trust? Well Wikipedia has this to say: A living trust, or in Latin inter vivos trust (inter vivos is Latin for "between the living"), is a trust created during a person's lifetime to either save money on taxes or setup long term property management. All living trusts are designed to avoid probate.
Since we are dealing with real estate when we are using a reverse mortgage the keys are the property management and the avoid probate issues.
Most of the questions that I hear regarding the reverse mortgage can be answered by us finding out who the parties to the trust are. Wikipedia has another point to help us here: The Parties To The Trust
• Grantor/Settlor: The person who sets up the trust; also called the settlor, trustor, or trustmaker.
• Trustee: This is the person who will manage the trust assets. This also may be the settlor in a Revocable Living Trust, since the settlor wants to manage his or her own property. Some revocable living trusts are "self settled trusts" (that is, the grantor is also a beneficiary of the trust).
• Successor trustee: Where the Grantor is a Trustee, the Successor Trustee is the person who will manage the trust assets when the Grantor dies, or in the event the Grantor becomes incapacitated. Upon the Grantor’s death, the Successor Trustee will immediately have the same powers that the Grantor had as Trustee to buy, sell, borrow, or transfer the assets inside the trust.
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The Successor Trustee has the right to distribute the trust’s assets according to the Grantor’s instructions in the trust instrument. The Successor Trustee does not have the legal right to change the trust. The trust becomes irrevocable upon the Grantor’s death. The Successor Trustee has the right to manage the assets in the estate, but must do so for the benefit of the remainder beneficiaries.
At the Grantor’s death, the Successor Trustee automatically takes over without court order, pays any debts, expenses and taxes directed to be paid by the terms of the written trust document, and then distributes the property to the trust beneficiaries. Where the trust is scheduled to terminate on the Grantor’s death, and the trust is merely a means of avoiding probate, the death beneficiary should ordinarily be named Successor Trustee.
• Beneficiaries: The people who will receive the benefit of the trust’s assets are called beneficiaries. Sometimes, the grantor is the original beneficiary. Those who take after the grantor's death are "remainder beneficiaries".
If the all of the Grantors/Settlors are alive then you still have a revocable trust and as long as they are the ones living in the property as their primary residence then you should be fine to do a reverse mortgage. Except in Texas where they have a law that does not allow property held in a trust to have a reverse mortgage.
If one of the Grantors/Settlors has died then there is a possibility that the property has been put into the decedents portion of the trust which is irrevocable and would cause a problem since reverse mortgages can only be done on property that is not in an irrevocable trust. See LegalZoom.com: Disadvantages of an AB Living Trust
But AB living trusts are not without their disadvantages. The most important of these disadvantages is that the surviving spouse cannot sell their spouse's share of the trust property. The surviving spouse is entitled to income generated by Trust A and to certain allowances for his or her health and support.
Also see about.com: When the first spouse dies, the first $3,500,000 of his or her assets are funded into the B Trust. This effectively uses the first spouse's $3,500,000 federal exemption from estate taxes. The B Trust can be relatively flexible and used for the benefit of the surviving spouse and descendants or other beneficiaries.
If the survivor did as described above at about.com they would most likely not be able to get a reverse mortgage. The reason is the trust is irrevocable and would limit the survivor’s ability to finance the property and the ability of the lender to encumber the property.
In all cases the lender is going to require a trust review by an attorney usually arranged by the title company, if the attorney allows it then the broker can move forward and process the reverse mortgage.
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( 3 / 308 )I just finished reading an article in Consumer Reports. The article is entitled “ Reversals of Fortune ” and is talking of course about reverse mortgages. The article is very in depth in some areas, but as typical in most newspapers and magazines there's a bit of sensationalism.
The article in its first paragraph talks about a borrower in Marysville California, who was either foolish enough or talked into taking himself off title and doing a reverse mortgage in his wife's name only. Then when she passed away, he was asked to move out of the house, sell the house or pay off the debt, which is what happens when the borrower of a reverse mortgage dies. We at WSB Mortgage Services have gone so far to try to prevent this from happening that we actually require the spouse who is considering taking themselves off title to write a hand written note that states they realize they may lose the house by taking doing so.
I would agree with Consumer Reports that this is a very negative thing that does happen in our industry, and I think those folks that encourage seniors to take a spouse off title should be dealt with severely. They should be taken to court to prove what logic there was to encourage somebody to take a spouse off title.
The article in the second paragraph goes on to give a very short positive mention toward reverse mortgages but then quickly turns negative again saying how quickly the high fees and interest charges can balloon and the senior can end up stranded in their home without any remaining equity. This really is just a function of how the senior chooses to take the money, if the senior would actually take the credit line instead of a lump sum of cash the credit line would continue to expand over the years, in fact giving the borrower access to more and more equity. Even more equity than they would have had if they had not done anything in the last two years in this downtrend in the housing market.
So I do agree with the article, that if you took a lump sum and you spend it foolishly you could end up with no additional equity to tap again in your lifetime. However if you have a good financial advisor to help direct you to the right loan, doing the credit line you would have access that continues to grow and grow over the years and you'd be in a much better position. So they get a little unbalanced in the article, what they state is true, they just don't state all of the facts, which again is pretty common in these types of articles.
The article goes on to talk about how the terrible people marketing these reverse mortgages are only talking about the positives in their advertising. Yet, you know, I don't see car dealers or anybody else that sells any other product talking about the negatives in their advertising either, the negatives are certainly part of the conversation when you meet with a client for any product, but I think you'd be hard-pressed to find any seller of any product volunteer the negative of their product on the commercials, so again a little misleading in your article.
The next topic is on the tax payers subsidizing the reverse mortgages. There is certainly FHA mortgage insurance paid on all of these loans, and it is substantial. As in any government program, there certainly is the possibility that taxpayers will provide some of the funding and in today's world that is pretty common.
And there's another paragraph talking about the unsuspecting borrowers have become cash cows for lenders, and I think that that's really disingenuous as well, in fact, many lenders have left the reverse mortgage business because it is not profitable, in 2008 the government clamped down on the amount of money the loan originators can get paid and the maximum loan origination fee currently stands at $6000.
There are heavy costs involved in marketing reverse mortgages from the marketing itself to the processing of loans, the government did not reduce their fee to $6000 for the FHA insurance and in fact, later in the article it states that it is capped at $6000, when it is not, it can be $ 12,510 for initial FHA insurance. So again the information in the article is wrong and the natural tendency of most news media is to beat on the poor marketers because they might make some money, heaven forbid.
The article goes on to talk about the fees and this is kind of interesting also, because they talk about the upfront fees on a $300000 home are about $15,000, and then the interest costs on the loan being another $30,000, which is again a little strange when you think about traditional mortgages. When you borrow $300,000 on a traditional mortgage and pay it back over 30 years you'd pay $600,000 of interest, and they're concerned about $30,000, isn’t that a little ridiculous. So again a little grandstanding on the part of Consumer Reports but I understand the need to sell magazines so I can appreciate where you're coming from, but let's be honest when we do our reporting next time.
The article continues with a barrage of complaining about the marketing campaigns of different lenders, and then about the fact that the reverse mortgage was designed for cash-strapped seniors and now they're using it to just improve their lives and what an awful thing that would be to just use your equity to improve your life! From my having been in the financial services business for 30 years, not just writing articles about whatever the hot button is today, the point at issue is really what is appropriate for each individual and I think that's what the article really misses. You can sit back in your ivory tower and point at how some senior should or shouldn't spend their money, but until you're out there meeting with that person, like I was this last week with a woman in Placerville, California, who hasn't had homeowners insurance for the last five years on her home because she can't afford it. When you go meet with that person and you sit down with them, then you might be in a position to judge what is or isn't appropriate for seniors in this situation.
The article continues with the couple's story where the husband wasn't 62 yet, so the broker talked them into taking him off title so that the wife could get the reverse mortgage to pay for medical bills. The article continues to complain about how they brought a notary public to the persons house and a copying machine to copy needed documents; so making it easy for a senior is a bad thing? At any rate, the person was taken off title, the wife died a few years later now the husband is in a precarious situation. I agree that the younger spouse should not be taken off title, and they should do whatever they can to wait until that person is 62.
The only two things that we will ever agree to in order to take somebody younger off title are if they are going to lose their home already, they can't afford the current payments it's going into foreclosure and they need to take the younger spouse off. That seems to make sense to us because they would lose the house anyway. So even if five or 10 years went by, and then the surviving spouse lost the house, at least we gave them 5 or 10 years. The other instances are when the spouse upon title is healthy enough to buy enough life insurance to pay off the debt when they die so that the survivor does have enough money to continue to live in the home.
So I agree with the article that these folks that encouraged this person to take himself off title made a grave mistake and certainly, the court is the ideal place to settle this type of concern. And we've encouraged other folks where we've come across the same situation to seek the help of the courts for being talked into this foolish move.
As I mentioned the article does misstate the FHA insurance premium. It says that the insurance premium could be up to $6000, and then a half a percent per year on the outstanding balance. It could be actually almost $13,000 in upfront mortgage insurance premium; it is 2% of the home value up to $625,500 substantially more than what the article points out. It's not a big deal, but if you write an article take the extra effort and get the numbers correct.
The article takes another negative turn when it goes into reverse mortgage ads that promise seniors will be able to pass on equity in their homes to their heirs. We are required as lenders to provide an amortization schedule, along with 150 other pages of disclosure. Most of the brokers out there are showing a 4% appreciation rate on homes over the course of the loan. Of course we have no idea what the home value is going to do; we have no idea so we have to just take a guess.
The other thing is the interest rates, in the article it talks about how we show the interest rate staying steady for the entire length of the loan. Again, it would be great if we could tell the future but we can’t, the amortization shows the interest rate staying the same for the entire length of the mortgage. Some software does allow us to actually show hypothetical situations up or down in either appreciation or interest rates, but if we do that your guess would be as good as anybody else's guess as to what the future really holds in store. As far as interest rates are concerned there are fixed rate reverse mortgages now, certainly we could you show the fixed rate reverse mortgage so we know it will stay the same. So I understand your frustration, but to just jump on the negative side of that is a little disingenuous when with the facts you're smart enough to realize that we can't tell what the future holds in store, why not say that in your article.
The article goes on to state that the heirs of a couple who passed away say their parents would never have done this if they realized there would be no equity to pass on to them. While I have to tell you I meet with hundreds of seniors and they actually would prefer to live their life in comfort than worry about how much money they pass on to their heirs and certainly after this is all said and done and the heirs find out there is little or nothing left for them I'm sure that they're not too happy about that. But they can't read their dead parents minds either and, usually when we talk to the seniors, they say “look I will live for myself and my kids can take care of themselves” and to the writer of the article, how do you feel, when your kids are adults, are you going to do without so your kids can do with after you die?
The article then goes into the issues of taking out reverse mortgage and putting the money into an annuity. I agree with the article again. It is a bad idea to borrow money to try to invest it in something that may or may not get a higher interest rate. You're really better off taking the credit line and letting the credit line grow and expand that way you don't have as much debt on your home and the amount of money that's available to you continues to grow.
We've heard this time and time again where there are some lenders that have recruited insurance people and insurance people have sold the reverse mortgage and then put the money into annuities. That doesn't mean that all insurance people are bad, and it doesn't mean that all lenders do this, you have a few lenders that are doing some poor things for seniors, and I agree that they should be taken to task.
The article continues with a scheme that was put together with a Sacramento attorney and an insurance agent. It goes on to quote another insurance person who says that “it's laughable to think that you can change the laws to control insurance people from selling products to these folks”, we verify that the borrower is not putting the money into any other financial products we not only have a form the borrower has to sign but on every reverse mortgage that comes through our office we have one of our corporate officers call the borrower and go through a questionnaire, the last question is, has the loan officer recommended you put the money from the reverse mortgage into any other financial product. If we find out that that is the case, which we haven't had that happen yet, but if we find that to be the case it means immediate termination for our loan officers and they are aware of that. We will talk to the borrower about the consequences of that action and try to talk them out of taking out a reverse mortgage and putting the money into something else.
You could find one witness that will give you whatever side of the story you're trying to promote, the simple fact of the matter is the law requires that we have safeguards in place so that these clients do not put their money into annuities or investments or anything else. If you find a lender that is doing that today the lender can be barred from making reverse mortgages and probably lose their ability to fund FHA loans altogether.
The last part of the article continues to talk about how Counseling is inadequate. I haven't been party to the conversation with the counselor but it does take about 45 minutes and my borrowers seem to know what's going on after they've had their counseling, and then the article finishes with some comment on what you should consider before doing reverse mortgage. One of which is that you should go seek out government assistance. I thought that was rather strange, since most of the article was bagging on the fact that the federal government might end up having to pay some of these debts back or the shortfall.
If you’re concerned with the government getting stuck with some of the bill from a reverse mortgage why recommend you go get the money directly from the government right now. That's a bit disingenuous, it goes on to talk about how the government will have to fund these mortgages and then you tell the people to go get government money for goodness sakes.
You tell them to go get a home equity loan, like the lady I just met, she can’t even pay for her homeowners insurance and you recommend that she go get a mortgage and start making payments on it. That doesn't make any sense either. If you can't afford these then sell your house, right easy for you to say, you haven't lived in your house for 40 years and have all the memories and everything, so again you're just taking from your ivory tower perspective, go with me and meet with a few seniors that are in this situation before you start making all of these ridiculous recommendations to them.
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